Joshua Gagnon

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Ep 012: Homosexuality & the Church - An interview with Ben Dubow (part 1)

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The recent Supreme Court ruling of legalizing gay marriage in all 50 states has been the subject of much debate, fear, and confusion, especially within the church. In this episode, listen to Ben Dubow, an openly gay man who was a pastor and church planter, as he talks about his experience with the church as he came out as a homosexual, and how he believes the church should handle this matter.

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Quotes From This Episode:

“Unless the church begins to understand the heartbeat of those living in a homosexual lifestyle, we’re really going to be missing out…on loving people like Jesus loves people.” – Josh Gagnon

“Secrets kill.” – Ben Dubow

“You tell enough small lies, it becomes really easy to start telling bigger lies.” - Ben Dubow

“If I’m going to be wrong, I want to be wrong on the side of inclusion and love and grace, as opposed to not.” - Ben Dubow

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