Joshua Gagnon

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Ep 026: The Value In Building Your Leaders

Welcome to Episode 26 of the Joshua Gagnon Leadership Podcast!

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Leadership development is necessary at every level of every organization. Pastor Josh had the opportunity to be a speaker for the Ministry Momentum Summit in January and he spoke on the topic of leadership development. In this episode, we will hear a more in-depth version of that talk as he shares why there is a need for leadership development plans in ministry as well as business organizations.

Mentioned In This Episode:

The Ministry Momentum Summit presented by Unseminary - www.ministrymomentumsummit.com/

NLC Music’s The Overcome EP - nlcmusic.tv/

Email Pastor Roman - roman.archer@nlc.tv

Next Level Church’s Leadership Development Plans - www.nlc.tv/basecamp

3 Takeaways For Leaders:

1. A vision outside of leadership planned is only a dream. Many leaders fall into the trap of dreaming big things for their church, but they fail to take the next step in creating a plan that will make that dream into a reality. Too often, churches never bridge the gap between dreaming and doing. Dreaming is the fun part--making a plan isn’t necessarily fun. We can’t just simply see the vision and rally the crowds, we have to make a plan to accomplish that vision by raising up leaders who will help us in our pursuits.

2. Develop the people under you to be able to think for themselves. Pastor Josh recognized in the early stages of Next Level Church that the leaders who were a couple tiers under him were not being empowered to make decisions for themselves. Instead, they would wait for direction of those above them without question. He then began asking, “Are the people on our team and in our volunteer positions able to say yes to questions that people present to them, or do they always have to go higher up in the organization to find a yes?” Once this problem was acknowledged, the leadership team had to develop those underneath them to the point where they could trust them with in their leadership positions.

3. When it comes to filling needed positions, don’t put a band-aid over the problem. In other words, don’t put someone in a role just because they are available but may not be the right person for the job. Don’t settle for filling a need; don’t settle for “band-aids.” Instead, look for people who can fuel your mission and who have the potential to become great. Great people produce great fruit. Take this point a step further by continually asking yourself if those people are in the “right seat” of the bus, even when they have been in their position for a long period of time.

Quotes From This Episode:

“You can have a big vision, but outside of the ability to train great leaders, your vision never has a vision to stand on.” - Josh Gagnon

“You’re never going to grow God’s Kingdom large if it’s only through the opinion and voice of a few.” - Josh Gagnon

“You’re never going to empower someone you don’t feel like you can trust, and you’re never going to trust someone who’s not developed.” - Josh Gagnon

“There’s a major difference between the right person and the available person.” - Josh Gagnon

“Great players are needed in order to have a great team, and great teams are needed to have great dynasties, and great dynasties are needed to order to leave great legacies.” - Josh Gagnon

“Greatness will produce greatness. Great people produce great results. Great people produce great fruit.” - Josh Gagnon

“If you don’t have the right people, you’ll never have the right organization; if you don’t have great people, you’ll never have a great organization.” - Josh Gagnon

“The primary responsibility of a leader is to raise up great leaders.” - Josh Gagnon