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Bonus Episode With Jerod Mayo Of The New England Patriots

Welcome to our special bonus episode of the Joshua Gagnon Leadership Podcast!

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Today we will be hearing from Patriots linebacker and captain, Jerod Mayo, as he shares his story about his career in the NFL and the lessons God has taught him to get to where he is today.

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3 Takeaways:

When in the midst of a storm, reflect on your blessings. Jerod explains that when he faces difficult situations, he remembers how blessed he is and how much worse it could be. God never promises that living a life following Him would be easy, but He does promise that we would live life in freedom.

Live life with open hands. Jerod makes it clear that whatever God has blessed him with--fame, fortune, material possessions--it was not his to begin with, and he lives his life with the mentality that we aren’t owners, we are simply managers of what God has given us. He said, “God blesses obedience.” When we are obedient with our giving, we will be blessed. It may not be a blessing in the area of finances, but God does promise to bless us if we are obedient to Him in giving of our time, talents, and treasures.

Be a light in a dark place by bringing positive energy. Being a professional football player, Jerod understands that we live in a dark world that needs the light of Jesus Christ. As a Christ-follower, he strives be that light on and off the field, but this takes accountability. Jerod keeps himself accountable by regularly attending chapel services and surrounding himself with like-minded Christians who are also football players.

Quotes From This Episode:

“If it’s easy, maybe you’re not doing the right thing.” - Jerod Mayo

“God’s always preparing you for what He has prepared for you.” - Josh Gagnon

“Even though this is our job, it’s still a game.” - Jerod Mayo

“God blesses obedience.” - Jerod Mayo

“Everyone ends up somewhere, few get there on purpose. Most of us get there on accident.” - Josh Gagnon

“You have to be a light in a dark place sometimes.” - Jerod Mayo

Tune in next week for a brand new episode on the Joshua Gagnon Leadership Podcast!

Ep 025: Leadership Secrets of the New England Patriots - An Interview with Dion Lewis

Welcome to Episode 25 of the Joshua Gagnon Leadership Podcast!

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Be on the lookout for our special bonus episode to be released on February 3, the Wednesday before Super Bowl weekend. In this episode, Pastor Josh will be speaking with New England Patriots linebacker, Jerod Mayo, about his faith in Christ, his career with the Patriots, and much more.

Today we will be hearing from another NFL player: Dion Lewis, a running back for the New England Patriots who recently suffered from a torn left ACL in November 2015 and has been out the rest of the season. In his conversation with Pastor Josh, Dion talks about who has influenced him in his career as well as what it is like to play for Super Bowl XLIX winners, the New England Patriots.

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3 Takeaways For Leaders:

1. Be coachable. Dion explains how his high school football coach taught him this valuable lesson. Even when you don’t necessarily agree with your leaders or elders, give them your respect and be willing to be teachable.

2. Make sure your organization cares about the needs of its people. For Dion, what made the New England Patriots stand out among the several other professional football teams he had been on was that the leadership cared about their players, not just as football players, but as people. As a result, Dion says that the players on that team play harder. He shared how Robert Kraft, Chairman and CEO of the Patriots, is always in the locker rooms before and after the game, and is considered part of the team.

3. Be the same man on the field as you are off the field. When Pastor Josh asked what characteristics of Tom Brady that Dion most look up to, he explained that Brady is the same person day after day. He works hard each day and he doesn’t waiver in that. The best leader is someone with the kind of integrity that others around them notice.

Quotes From This Episode:

“A lot of leaders will find strength in their weaknesses.” - Josh Gagnon

“You don’t always have to agree with someone. Just respect their opinion.” - Dion Lewis

“The greatest quality of a leader is teachability: being willing to be taught.” - Josh Gagnon

“I knew that whatever team picked me, I just had to make sure I went out there and work as hard as I could to be the best player I can be.” - Dion Lewis

Listen to a bonus episode with Jerod Mayo on the Joshua Gagnon Leadership Podcast on February 3!

Ep 024: People Matter: A conversation about what really counts in ministry

Welcome to Episode 24 of the Joshua Gagnon Leadership Podcast!

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In honor of the upcoming Super Bowl, we will be releasing a special bonus episode on the podcast featuring New England Patriots linebacker, Jerod Mayo. Be on the lookout for this special episode on February 3.

Today’s conversation was prompted by a talk Pastor Josh gave the staff of Next Level Church after witnessing time after time prioritizing tasks over people, along with some breakdowns in communication. In this episode, you will hear Pastor Josh explain several reasons why we don’t prioritize people as well as some important principles of communication.

3 Takeaways For Leaders:

1. One of the reasons we don’t prioritize people is because the task that needs to get done is more important than the individuals getting the task done. Pastor Josh noticed this reality among the NLC staff and that often times we value the task more than the people getting the tasks done. The focus becomes the task rather than the person. Don’t make the mistake of seeing people as the tool in which we get ministry done, but rather, see them as the treasure in which we get ministry done.

2. Another reason we don’t prioritize people is the speed at which we’re we’re leading is faster than our ability to communicate change. Pastor Josh admits that when he started NLC, he led so often at this fast pace of trying to get the big vision across, but he learned that he wasn’t equipped with the ability to lead at that pace. Since then he has slowed down in his decision making and leadership role and has learned to lead in the moment rather than live in the future.

3. When it comes to prioritizing people, we must learn to communicate better. Pastor Josh hits on several points for better communication: 1) Never assume anything, 2) Ask layers of questions, 3) Invite people into being part of situation, 4) Listen, 5) Put yourself in their shoes, and 6) Over-communicate.

Quotes From This Episode:

"The larger an organization gets, the temptation is to forget that each person still should matter as much as they ever did when you didn’t have such a large organization."

"People matter at every size."

"Until we understand or recognize that every person serving under you and alongside of you matters, we’re going to fail at this thing called ministry."

"One of the reasons we don’t prioritize people is because the task that needs to get done is more important than the individuals getting the task done."

"You don’t lead the moment by living in the future, you have to slow down and lead the moment."

"When it comes to leadership, more people do damage through assumption than anything else."

"The greatest answers ever given simply come from the greatest questions ever asked."

"Leaders should be great question-askers and not just great answer-givers."

"Insecure leaders barely ask questions; secure leaders love asking questions because they’re empowering people to find answers."

"Communication is never strong verbally outside of you being strong listening."

"Too many leaders are so busy talking, they have no idea what they should be saying."

"Communicate with your mouth, listen with their ears."

"Without great communication, you will never lead or be a part of a great church or organization."

Follow Pastor Josh on Twitter at @joshgagnon!